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Some of the main reasons to get the tune, other Reply. </h1> </div> <!-- NEWS PAGING TOP --> <!-- ./ NEWS PAGING TOP--> </div> <span class="img-copy pull-right">foto: Instagram/@inong_ayu</span><br> <div class="deskrip-body"> <p></p> <h2 class="read-sinopsis">Stage 1 tuning cost reddit. Designed to keep emissions intact.</h2> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> <div class="social-box"> <div id="socials-share"> <div class="mkl-share16"> <ul class="list-share16"> <li></li> <li><span class="tweet-share"></span></li> <li><span class="wa-share"></span></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> <div class="deskrip-body"> <span class="date"> 7 April 2024 12:56</span> <!-- item 1 --> <p><!-- prefix --><b> Stage 1 tuning cost reddit. My question is the price, they quoted me $1495. If planning to stay stage 1 forever, APR is fine. If you do stage 1 then go to stage 2 it would be the $500 plus an additional $80 to reflash the ECU. 99, your state's taxes my be different. 5T, because the CVT can’t handle more than like a 50HP increase without problems arising. Stage 1 is tune + intake, Stage 2 is stage 1 + catback, Stage 3 is stage 2 + downpipe and usually a fuel or cooling modification. Figured a tune is cheaper than a trans, so I did that. Stage 2: Stage 2 tune adds an additional 10 hp and 15 tq over stage 1. 032 (factory gap) and factory heat range (on Stage 2). It holds gears a lot longer when you need it too and drives mush smoother in stop and go traffic. I have narrowed it down to an APR Stage 1 ECU+TCU tune or getting the Cobb Accessport with DSG functionality and doing the EQT ECU/TCU tunes. That’s the point, right. 0/1. 3. Correct me if I am wrong on that. Seems like incredible gains for stage 1. Reddit's Loudest and Most In-Tune My install experience with Unitronic stage 1+. This would triple the price and i didn't have much of an interest Stage 1 claims 513 to the WHEELS (625 crank I think). Both offered 1:1 throttle and I enjoyed btr better. if u get it from a. I've been Unitronic Stage 1 (91 Octane) for only 5000km at this rate, but as far as I can tell the tune is fairly conservative compared to others (still VERY noticeable), and the majority of the power increase is coming above 2000rpm. 0 tune Stage 3 is around 205BHP but will cost APR Stage 1 Tune Cost. If not, ask them to do the Haldex and DSG service as condition of your purchase. The Stage 1 for the 2. So i recently bought a 2008 335i and i was wondering if anyone has some tips for stage 1&2 tuning. 0T with about 60K miles on it. This level has been the best for years honestly. I know at least 1 other company makes a tune for the EK1 lite and I half wonder how it compares to Sxth's Stage 1. It’s all money to them. Your car will last and grant you unlimited smiles per gallon. ago. 100K subscribers in the GolfGTI community. The timing is more aggressive so boost comes on a little bit sooner (and MUCH harder), but if you're gentle with the throttle you won't be on boost any more than the stock tune. Amortized over a few years, I’m not too worried about having to pay for a different company’s stage 2 tune. What's the cost? i emailed and they told me it's about $400 plus shipping costs to ship your ecu to and from their shop. Can't switch between 91 &93 octane. Get an Apr stage 1 tune for engine and dsg. Stage 1 plus: Stage 1 tune w/ deletes. #5 · Jan 19, 2024. Contact your service department. Based on the research I've done the stage 2 doesnt seem worth the extra ~$1300. For example, a MK7 GTI here in Texas for the Stage One APR Tune is about $650 after tax, not including the shop's labor fee. Stage 1: Stage 1 tune, adds +20hp +35tq. You're only paying $650 altogether even if you start with the stage 1. You're conflating two different tuning stages & their parameters. Just went stage 1 from IE and the car feels superb. The DSG tune is definitely worth it. Hey guys, I've been looking at tunes for a while, and i'm down to 3. GIAC DSG tune since not long after stage 1. So pick up a Cobb AP, get EQT's Stage 2 OTS 91/93 pump file, and EQT's TCU The differences between the Stage 1 tunes, as I said, are negligible. If you’re just doing a simple stage 1 tune to bring the car to life you can probably go with whatever. Calling it a stage 1 is a bit deceptive if it needs a intercooler and intake to achieve it. My suggestion would be EQT. $175 is what they quoted me. You should still pay the shop to remove the ECU for you. Never had one engine issue. If you run . Jon over at Z1 is top notch and has answered any questions and has provided support when necessary. FanFuckingFaptastic. Their customer support is top-notch, Terry (the main developer) answers questions personally and in a timely fashion. Malone purposely doesnt push your stuff to the edge because that isnt the I have a revo stage 1 tune which claims to make upwards of 333 bhp with the correct fuel (which I run) and good engine health. GTS model is exactly a tune of the 992S. Went IE Stage 1 after a lot of research and decided I’m kinda DIY guy so like the hands on approach. Also I installed a titanium arrow header and I didn’t get it but it’s available as a separate software package with associated cost (500-1000 I think). Having driven my VII at Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 2 high torque, Stage 3 IS38. If you really like to drive a stick (I do) then a short throw is very satisfying. I’m mainly wondering if there’s something i’m missing before i tune (besides intercooler). -We are the master dealer for APR in Texas and surrounding states, so we only go with them. also gives added features to control It's also worth noting, with IE if you plan to go stage 2 in the future; upgrading from stage 1 tuning to stage 2 tuning with IE only costs the difference in price between the maps. Stage 3 is even more As you might have already heard, APR is no longer producing or selling their downpipe, effectively killing the APR stage 2 flash tune. Expect to pay between $300-600usd for a stage 1. You can always sell the AP at a later date for near purchase price to recoup some cost. So basically you paid to get the intake sound. Initially, you can do a Stage 1 TT Gallardo, which is pretty much just installing the twin turbochargers for about 600-650 wheel hp. 2/1. I would highly recommend it👍🏻. I’m very new to BMWs so i just don’t want to make any mistakes. stage 2 isn’t THAT aggressive but it’s not just a ecu tune it’s a ecu tune, downpipes, intake. The car feels more 'alive' and responsive. 170ishBHP with 1. So for me recent "official" engine updates FW reality is a still one of few unanswered questions. There are also low torque flashes for this with APR idk about other tunes. Ive only driven 20 miles with the ECU tune so far. Wasn't planning on it, but it just felt like the transmission was having trouble holding the power and made low grumbling noises. I have a 2. I only drive a Stage 2 GTI. Both would cost me approximately the same at around $1200 Tuning is really only an issue in the 1. A single pulley Stage 2 will only increase the hp about 20 and the torque about 12 compared to Stage 1 but it is very noticeable. • 3 yr. I’ve had sfr, btr, and now alphaspeed. i have seen alot of folks tune their c43 to stage 2 and usually it is pretty reliable as well. Malone 2. FKL is a learned event within the rpm range where the ecu sensed an issue. They just can't deprioritize the exhaust o2 codes that trip your cel. The tuners I have spoken with are pushing me towards a custom tune. Flashzilla is malone. Spending almost 1K just to remove octane learning problem isn't enough to justify cost. Both are reliable tunes but APR is far better power and the DSG tune from Unitronic was IMO terrible. So decide your goals. I figured I'd have them quote me the plugs while it was there, and it'd maybe cost $70 or 80. I have a 6mt and if I could tune to stage 1 without losing my warranty, I'd do it. I did the IE Stage 1/93 octane tune about 4000 miles ago (16K ish total now) with no slipping issues on the stock clutch. With that logic, Porsche should not make anything but a base model. Your timing would get pulled a good deal to correct the pre detonation that would occur. Reply. Well worth the money for anyone who has bolt ons, I have it on my Z and I have test pipes back and it made a significant difference in performance. Unitronic Stage 1+ deal + some questions. Features: More Power: Max gains up to 146 HP / 155 lb-ft of torque over stock on the F87 M2C and 122 HP / 145 lb-ft of torque over stock on the F8x M3/M4 using E85. The baby grumble. Regardless some guy on Facebook in the AMG GT group dynoed his when he installed the tune. I did an intake when I went stage 2, but even then, I don’t need it, I just wanted it and it made more sense to do it with a bunch of other mods, at least to me. Integrated engineering is my fav. I went with Seb I have a 22 Super Chief Limited with Stage 1 + 2, and the factory Indian Stage 2 tune was running too rich and had a pretty poor power curve. A stage 1 APR tune costs around $600 dollars for me at least and that is CAD so I’m not sure how you ended up at $1000. Other tuners on the platform include 034 and IE. Depending on what fuel you have available you can make between 290 hp and 337 hp at the crank. Have loved every minute of it, but I regret not just paying $1. 0T engine is some the bang for your buck when it comes to modifying. 0T 2018 and I installed the DC sports exhaust and it sounds great without tuning. I would go get the recall check at a Volks dealership to have A7 Stage 1 Tune. It's stage 2 that's affected and they didn't even change the tune really. That's what I'm running and it's fantastic. as I looked through forums it seemed like allot of people were paying around $1000 for the stage Bootmod 3 stage 1 tune for about 30000 miles no issues - significantly faster on the f8x IMO and would recommend. 90 more hp and much better responsiveness. On the fly tuning is also super cool, having both a stage 1 and 2 tune readily accessible whenever. Integrated Engineering Stage 1 tune help. Volkswagen Alltrack APR tune stage 1. use the accessport to flash the tune to your car, get full logging and data monitoring through the accessport. Hey all, I recently purchased a 2017 Tornado Red GTI autobahn with just under 20,000 miles. -CP-E lightweight FMIC. Lawbreakingmonkey • 2 yr. Get a downpipe and go Stage ^2. No tuner is going to drop an increase at one RPM range. So it's like a is38 mk7, not a shocker IMO since it has a bigger turbo. You get a Cobb AP with it. Volkswagen offers a factory approved stage 1 tune for your Tiguan that does not void your warranty. Several guys drive Stage 2 7 & 7. An ots stage 1 + tune will map out the car to be compatible with the aftermarket intake. Planning on going stage 2 once I recoup some funds. Unitronic does have a 30 day money back guarantee though. good tuner you’ll be fine. JB4 costs about $400 plus $140 for the Bluetooth connector - which allows you to adjust the parameters via an app on your phone - app costs $30. Chances are you wouldn't have a problem, but there is definitely a risk. The breathing you can finally hear. All of them produce about the same power after the tune. I have a Stratified stage 1 tune on my car and it's great, but I've heard good things about Dizzy too. Folks that don't mind a little more noise and a little less fuel economy. The N55 makes ~10% less power than N54's when modded. Purely Subjective First Impressions of an APR Stage 1 ECU and TCU Tune - 2019 GTI SE DSG. Probably puts it in line with the cost of a is38+ and tune which would be similar power and some places say you can run OEM hardware on the is38. I have a manual tranny and my clutch is holding up just fine. Hi, I have a 2016 Audi A7 3. Plus, at most of the cost of a stage 1 tune ($570 for JB4+bluetooth kit), and some of the risks (as you pointed out, a "suspected tuning box" is possible), I just didn't feel like it was the route for me. Sxth seems great and the device was easy to use, but, I thought there would be a huge difference. APR- have to get it flashed a dealer, but one near me does it for free, most expensive and i would have to go back to dealer if i want to do anything. Mk6 I thought stage 1 would be easy $600 for 30-40 hp gains but cost almost $3000 after having to upgrade the clutch. I had REVO stage 1 and 2 engine tunes for years and went APR when the k04 went in. JB4. Dinan Stage 1 performance software includes a limited lifetime warranty against defects in the software and One thing the above comment left out is if your car is manual, a clutch upgrade is essentially required, even for stage 1. The stock air box is good to ~350 whp by my understanding so you’re not going to gain appreciable power over 1. On a regular clean asphalt backroad, my ECU+TCU stage 1 tuned DSG Golf R's quickest run was 3. I. they will not deny service. I've got a handful of parts together that I am about to install on my FoST and wanted to see everyone's opinions on these parts and the reliability of the OTS Stage 2 Cobb tune. I have a 2023 S1000RR M and I installed the Bren tune stage 1. A stage 1 ECU tune for an SQ5 at MTM costs around 6k dollars. My engine blew up while getting tuned by alphaspeed lol never had issues with sfr and btr, sfr had a little bit of a more aggressive feel, like shifting had a little more kick and btr just felt more mellow. Depends where you get it done at but just the stage 1 you can probably expect it to be around 700-750 with labor. Stage 1 really wakes up the car. Maybe when I get more than 50k miles, as I’m only at 20k (bought it at 17k). It’s slightly stiffer than stock after break in. I converted a 2012 and bought a 2016 with it factory installed. 2011 mkvi gti 6mt here. Marginally more power than stage 1. I'm absolutley new to car modification. I've had APR and IE. 23 for the stage 1 tune and $2550. •. Initial day of flash: I decided to flash my car on a Saturday knowing full well that support was closed. I paid $1,000 for the Cobb including a custom stage 1 tune. 41) until the issue is resolved or it senses that the issue is no longer there. I heard someone use the term. The MKV & MKVI were the same. 4T EA111/211. 91 for stage 1 + pulley. The Good: JB4 is currently considered the best tune for the N55, all of the top N55 cars (in terms of HP and 1/4 miles times) run JB4's. I can't wait speak much on the difference of the DSG tunes. Figure $60-80 for the plugs and then an hour of labor. I've done a lot of reading and a lot of calling around where I'm located (Sydney, Australia) and I have a few options. Yeah, 034 has great hardware. e. Sweet, thanks for the feedback. The stock is good till 400. Get a COBB AP and a tune from someone like EQT (biased, I have EQT). Every dealer is different, however the worst they will do is ask you to pay for something. Theyve been known to be one of the best tunes for reliablity and good bump in power. If you have any aspirations to go stage 2 and beyond, go EQT, UM or Eurodyne. Most of the stories of people having issues are running stage 2 or higher with cat less downpipes or ethanol injection etc. If you’re going to end up down the rabbit hole/money pit of performance upgrades like most of us. Stage 1 and stage 2 mods, undue some of that mass market production for the more performance oriented crowd. Because the APR software is running directly on the ECU you get deeper control of things including removing the speed limiter, adding brake boosting Been on stage 1 for 15k miles with southbend stage 3 daily. Reply reply This is definitely a popular option, but I'm not comfortable with warranty fraud. The cost of the tune is $599. For the stage 1 the only authorized dealer in my state is quoting $840 for a stage 1 apr tune and $2200 for a stage 2. 5-7s range at best, which doesn't sound that quick but is much quicker than it 1 vs 1+ is honestly just the sound. 67s 0-60 on all season tires (Michelin Pilot Sport AS4). If you go stage 1, I would add an air intake to have the 'Pshhhh' noises. The new standards don't affect stage 1 tunes. This is because they do, but those tunes come at a cost of reliability. If you do get KR values <-4deg, you need Hopefully the tune in my opinion is way to over priced for the amount of hp gains you are getting. 5 to stage 1. 5 R's. From experience, I'd roughly estimate my wife's Tiguan's 0-60 is probably 1-1. It will continue to show an issue in negative values (ie - 1. For the cost of a $10 socket you can DIY in legitimately 5 minutes, and your ignition coils need to be removed to do them. Any down sides until now? 102 votes, 57 comments. 2008 335i N54 Get whichever one is cheaper for you. In the modern era, not only do you have to scour the country to find a competent tuner who can accurately tune your specific model, then drive your un-tuned car there(if it runs at all)but you have to drop $600+ on a new dyno tune EVERY TIME YOU CHANGE ANYTHING. zachsilvey • 2 yr. I think it’s the best bang for the buck. The gains from stage 1 to stage 2 are minimal. I bought a stage 1 ECU tune one week and then the TCU tune the next week. 2. Then will increase your DAM. I also have an aggressive CAI which should add about 10 bhp (I've seen dyno results for intakes on mk7s making a difference of up to 15 bhp online here and there) A while back, I came across a video where a gti gets a You’ll bring up codes left and right. I had APR for 6 and a half years, 80K miles, and it was great. The one mechanical change you might want to make is one step colder spark plugs, but if you drive in a lot of traffic or low-load However, it is fairly common for people to experience some knock retard (KR) on the initial shakedown of the Stage 1 EQT tune - you should be logging and doing some clean 3rd and 4th gear pulls when you first install to check for this. P. This car was fast before, but it's an absolute rocket now. com (also a Dutch company) claims that they are original developers of ECO stage 1 tune-files for NG Saabs, so all tuning shops are flashing their SW/FW to the ECU and it is supposed to be really Stage 1 tunes are designed to run on factory plugs, and factory parts all around. Just waiting for support for 2021 model! Any updates on eqt tune ecu/tsu stage one? Im thinking to grab one for my gti. He showed pics of his stock pull at 470ish WHP to provide a baseline. No problems whatsoever. I got an APR Stage 1 tune at 25,000 miles, currently have 52,000 miles, and have not had any issues yet. 95 - DQ250, DQ381, DQ500, DL501 (All Platforms) Turbocharged Engine Software: $299. The first Haldex service was due at 30k so it should have been done but hopefully there is a maintenance record kept. I always suggest the Accessport with an e-tune (my suggestion is EQT). For now, we’ll be finished with Stage 1 next week and in this video you can see a preview of what you’ll get. The tune was temporarily removed when the dealer applied an ECU update, and the loss in power was noticeable. Bolt on bigger VW turbo and retune. Come post about Volkswagen news and other interests. Forgive me, for I just drive a VW GTI. Don't pay attention to +/-10 reported HP by different vendors. Clutch feel from the southbend isn’t as stiff as some people will say. 6k and doing the downpipe w/stage 2. I've read some posts that suggest i also put in an intake and an exhaust system. Consult the performance charts for detailed data and additional octanes. May see an mpg or two better. 198 posts · Joined 2023. Rev hang issue and throttle sensitivity fixed all while being able for the ecm to use an aftermarket intake. 95 - 1. The whistle. My parts are listed down below. I've narrowed it down to either REVO or a custom tune with some supporting intake mods. The gains were much more noticeable on the A5 than the RS5 but that is because there isn't a lot of power you can get out of a NA v8. Unitronic stage 1. After a ton of research, I knew I wanted to go with Unitronic, which I ended up purchasing during their latest sale. Then installed the tune 😈 Stage 1, admittedly with the Blackboost intakes as well, showed 585 wheel. Sounds like the dealership is participating in the apr program. The low torque tune is usually designed to add top end power without too much torque added. They're still emissions compliant. • Our 100% stock 6-speed is making 320whp and 326wtq with modest boost and other tweaks. For example let's see MTM and APR. I recently purchased a 2017 GTI autobahn edition. I own a 2013 S5 and I have an appointment in Green Bay, WI this Friday to have my ECU flashed with the APR Stage 1 tune. 5 on 1/4 mile time Any tuning will void factory powertrain warranty. if you ever want an update, new tune, stage 2, or remove the tune, you can do all that on your own time with the accessport. dyno-chiptuningfiles. . My feelings were if BMW thought the stacks were worthwhile the stock ones would be similar so I don't think there is much gain there. Dinan is quoting the stage 1 tune at 414hp/478 lb/ft of torque. Stage 2 COBB OTS Tune Reliability Concerns. Yeah, that's right. I think it’s considerably cheaper than a Dinan tune too. I'm interested in doing an APR Stage 1 tune and want to know if i just the tune is enough or if i need to do anything else. I own a 2019 volkswagen alltrack, People keep telling me to get an APR tune stage 1, but I have 2 questions: 1st, how much do I need to know about tuning/what do i need to manage after the tune, and second is it reversible in the case that I want to sell the car. Stage 2 high torque was the best middleground. Go look at EQT stage 1. But at APR, a stage 1 ECU tune costs like 1k. I've been waiting on pulling the trigger on stage 2 for a good six months, waiting for "the right time" but apparently I waited too long so I can't make This is where Fine knock learn (fkl) and Feedback Knock (fbk) comes in. arrrgh14. Hey guys, looking for some advice tuning my 2018 Golf R MK 7. If you plan on going stage 2 you’re better off just going straight to it. APR offers their own warranty with their tune for a hefty cost if you’d like that peace of mind. The factory intercooler is small and heats soaks to point of significantly increased intake air temps after 8 or so seconds of full throttle, resulting in pulling of ignition timing and reduced power. plus customs fees for international shipping. They cannot deny warranty because of a tune. The S4 can greatly benefit from an upgraded intercooler even without a tune. Thanks, I will have a look at both! I did the stage 1 APR for approx AU$990 when they had 10% off. 5 hrs). You could do stage 1 stock, I believe, and a cold air intake is highly recommended. Modding Talk. I can tell a noticeable difference in the low-end torque, and there doesn't seem to be any sort of drop off in power from what I could tell. I honestly wouldn’t even go crazy with having a tuner look at your car for a stage 1; a ton of companies have put a lot of research into factory feeling stage 1 maps that drive great at all throttle positions with way more power. Stage 2 is a more powerful tune using the same turbos, but also significantly more expensive since they have to upgrade a number of parts in the car in order for it to withstand 800+ hp. I've heard APR is more aggressive tunes, IE seems like a balance, and 034 motorsport are slightly more conservative (good for longevity). The tuner adjusts the mapping and parameters to your specific car. Purely anecdotal, but I’ve been running an off the shelf Cobb stage 1 tune for a while. Stage 1 shouldn't do anything to mileage. Had mine for 30k no problems, I've seen people break 200k with not issues. (Eg: Your rear camera breaks. 6psi. Stage 3 is a pretty safe setup. But am part of a local R & Friend's group. Stage 2 doesn’t mean shit, just tuner BS to sell more expensive tunes. First let me say, I'm so happy to be back, it's amazing. I didn't feel the need for stage 2 on the street. SketchPV. I believe it’s like anywhere from 2K at the lowest and 4K for a full system. The stock GTI clutch might as well be made of wood chips and cereal boxes. The downpipes are gone already, you can't get one anymore. The power to cost value is an insanely good deal, but I'm personally not going to risk it. Most will go as aggressive as you like but reputable tuners will educate you on the risks and tune accordingly with some headroom build in. If you notice, other tuners claim they make more power from a stage 2 than malone does. 0 cjaa stages explained. APR Stage 1 is safe. You don't need to tune if you don't care about the performance. Waiting on someone to give their opinion on 034 tune. I am currently in the process of determining the best stage 1 tune to get for my 2016 MK7 with the DSG. $499 + shop labor (mine charged 0. My VW progression was a 2007 Golf Rabbit --> 2010 GTI --> 2013 Tiguan (current family car) --> now back to a GTI! I was going to wait a bit longer to get a . that is my understanding yes. These are all pointless /s. If you should decide to purchase an A. Only certain tuners make use of the A. I did a cold air intake from Luft-Teknik and I’m really enjoying it. Made everything worth it no doubt. An inter cooler is highly recommended. The way my mechanic explained it to me (which is in line with everything I’ve read online) is that a TCU tune isn’t necessary at stage 1 but is highly recommended at stage 2 and above. APR, Unitronic, Integrated Engineering, Malone, and more, offer instant-Flash tunes over the Internet, or direct in store. Designed to keep emissions intact. upgrade from IE is $50… In terms of other places to consider, the two big other tuners for the Fiesta ST are Stratified and Dizzy Tuning. Forget about the S, GTS, Turbo, Turbo S, GT3, GT3RS, GT2, GT2RS. It will help your clutch but the only long term solution is a heavier clutch. when you see a stage 1 is $550 and stage 2 is $650, you're not paying $1200 total for both. This was at 70k miles and also depends on how you drive. 162K subscribers in the Volkswagen community. Performance comes at the cost of comfort and economy. All OEM parts. Definitely makes a difference that I Iike - planning on going stage 2 - have the CAI from AFE and choosing which downpipe is next - not looking forward to the install. Probably around $500. For Christmas – an amazing friend and auto enthusiast to the 10th power arranged and paid for an APR Stage 1 ECU tune for me not only to celebrate our common love of everything car but knock me off the fence. Having said that, https://www. Though trust me, Stage 2 REALLY makes the R shine. Stock clutch cant take that much added torque mine slipped day 1. That’s what they quoted me as an approximate cost and I was told this by my service dept is avail with warranty support, no voiding of your warranty. My friend has a c43 17 DME stage 2 with downpipes and I take which cost him $2500 Canadian with installation and he’s running 11. It's just marketing, but it spread to other communities outside of Subarus as well, and they kinda defined for themselves what the "stages" are, but they aren't consistent even within a community. Some of the main reasons to get the tune, other Reply. Any tune is better than stock, you won't want to go back, it's a day & night difference. Since no exhaust parts fit this model yet, Stage 2 development will be happening in the next couple months. Time is money. 5s slower than a MK7 GTI, so maybe 6. I've had a stage 1 tune since 5k miles and currently at 120k. Celtic Tuning Stage 1. Car runs cooler, much better mpg. The R even Stage 1 is a new machine of smiles. Stage 3 is the same price if you do it incrementally. If you do a trial of the Revo stage 1, the Unitronic will be very similar. The additional cost is about $500 for parts and labor. a stage 1 tune has been and still passes emissions testing in all forms and doesnt modify any check engine lights, since no CEL should be thrown from a stage 1 tune. • 2 yr. 4th gear is the best stress test because it makes higher peak boost. (69k with about 22k with the JB4)A Cobb tune or any other tune for that matter flashes the ecu and is easily detected by the dealer. r/GolfGTI is a place for GTI enthusiasts to discuss and share information related…. There is no stage 1 or 2 with a custom tune. Unitronic or Cobb + Stratified, uni is great value for your dollar and Cobb + stratified is the best option overall. Stage 2 should have been factory output. Different motor and only anecdotal evidence. Jan 19, 2024 · Ric15. Oct 26, 2020 · Every price for every stage and option has changed across the globe, and these savings are locked in for the foreseeable future! Key retail pricing in the USA is as follows: Transmission Software: $499. 2013 A5 Cab with a new motor. 1. New clutch will be a very much needed. A set of NGK Iridiums was about $50-60. New models, old classics, whatever you want! That is a must and is required by all tuners for Stage 2 & above options). The fans will run an upwards of 5-10 minutes doing the tune, and you do NOT want it to die mid flash. P, currently you can get A FREE EQT stage 1 tune from Equilibrium Tuning. The burden of proof is on them, so if they unfairly deny a warranty claim, you can get them to pay. The cost between Stage 1-2 isn't really worth it. get a COBB. Would you recommend EGR and DPF delete to pair with the tune or is that not worth it? Thanks. All they did was increase the boost from 16psi to 18. Don't go past stage 1 unless you want to swap the turbo. I had both my old A5 and my current RS5 tuned to a stage one from APR. The cost to get the downpipe and supporting mods as well as the regular swapping to pass smog checks will be the more significant expenses. I’ve always heard OTS maps/tunes referred to as stage 1/2 etc. Manufacturers have to produce for the mass market. “buy once cry once”🤣. 5. You prolly gained very little hp over stock. All depends on what you’re looking for. Peak power wasn't until about 4500rpm, I just had Powervision 6 installed last week and a dyno tune and now it's making peak power from about 2500rpm right through the rev range. Looks like the stage 1 gives around 300whp and stage 2 gives around 320whp. Don't know about the timing chain issues on the CPLA, I have CCTA (2012). Glad you love your current setup OP. If you want a Stage 1 tuned Golf R, it seems like an OK price to me in this market. We expect this to go up some as Now, I'm not saying it's a bad tune. Then almost 60k on stage 2 from EQT on the same clutch and it’s still holding strong. 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