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Jul 20, 2023 · zainexe Discussion starter.</h1> <div class="entry-content clear" itemprop="text"> <p><img decoding="async" src="/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/" alt="" class="aligncenter"></p> <hr id="hhr"> <p>Sprinter timing chain rattle. 4 turbo with a 120,000 miles on it. Mar 18, 2013 · The timing chain issues on the 4. #1. 5L Ecoboost - Start-up Timing Chain Rattle - Turbo Noise During Acceleration - 2013 3. Let’s explore these problems in detail. This is the rubber seal around the crankshaft and the timing cover. 5L EcoBoosts and have had to deal with the issue by contacting Ford directly to see if they offer any kind of support for the problem. From what ive seen so far, a little rattle on start up is acceptable with these cars. I had a 2014 crosstrek before this and it did the exact same thing. #1 · Jul 20, 2023. I have a 1993 fzj80 with just 200K turned over on the clock. Just in the process of selling my transit after complete engine rebuild and £5000 spent this year. That was the motor mounts. Bad oil consumption. Sep 12, 2020 · September 12, 2020. Raise the hood. I've had the startup rattle since my 2006 4 banger Colorado has been new. MB told him about $15,000 to put in a new engine. oil change normally costs around 60 bucks for me so I change my oil every 10k miles. 955 engine (120kw, 316cdi). 0 140 Crew 2nd w/ 172175k on it . [ allegedly for under bonnet packaging issues linked to safety legislation] The oil change issue is probably corporate bull**** since many early engines Apr 28, 2011 · Location. But they are still oil pressure dependent, so keeping the oil changed and clean is important. May 18, 2016 · pelone Discussion starter. 0 TDI Prestige, prior was a 2013 TDI Passat SEL Plus. 0T. Clearly its a engine out repair. This update relates to ALL engines from 1995 to today. Purchased a container of Nulon PTFE, the engine oil additive Mar 7, 2013 · The procedure will be found in the manuals. #13 · May 26, 2011. Jul 3, 2019 · Hello Sprinter-Source Community, I have a 2015 OM651 (2. 3. 332 posts · Joined 2013. ( Mercedes parts) It usually lasts 300-400k km on a B class. 1) The chain might be worn and stretched, even though you observed it as tight! Carbon particles in the oil reduce Sep 29, 2018 · 2008 Sprinter 2500 170 Extended High Top 3. So problem I have is noise when acelerting and decelerating. I have a 2011 santa fe limited with the 3. Jan 17, 2013. It now has about 360,000 miles. As recommended by Ed get yourself an automotive stethoscope and have a listen. This job can be thousands of dollars. Also, have a look at the water pump. 2014 A6 3. Posts: 3,492. Check the tension on the timing chain and adjust as necessary. Just the starter clutch and the like for any issues. 0L V6, OM642 engine with dual row timing chain. It will sound like a moderately loud ticking or rattle for about 3 seconds. I've tried synthetic oil, different weights of oil (from 0W-30 to 10W-30), multiple brands & types of filters with and without ADBV. A faulty timing chain (also known as a belt) can cause your car to make this noise. Tap the new crankshaft seal into the timing cover. I have a 2014 F150 3. In some cases, the timing chain on your Ford Explorer could become stretched, which can lead to a loud rattling noise coming from your engine. 0L SOHC engine is one of Ford’s Cologne V6 engines, a line of 60º, cast iron block, V6 engines produced continuously by Ford in Cologne, Germany since 1968. If not the chain itself rattling, it could be the guide block (or chunk of it) rattling against the chain. I fixed this by replacing the timing chain tensioner. Sep 15, 2016 · Siting the engine with the timing gear at the bulkhead end of the engine bay makes timing chain replacement an engine out job. On the saturn 1. cheers Sep 21, 2022 · First of all, you should make your mechanic check the tensioner. It was the cam chain tensioner. Sep 29, 2018. Way more noticeable with the hood open. I have owned a 2007 Sprinter (3. I broke it back down went through the proper steps, set the timing and initially the car sounded great ,purring even. On the 70s and 80s diesel Mercedes I owned it was a 100k mile Jun 5, 2018 · The 5. If its a tap tap noise or light rattle not from the back of the engine it could be a tappet or something else. Includes the following timing chain componenets: Timing Chain w/ master link ; Timing Chain Guide Set; Timing Chain Tensioner; 2 Front Camshaft Plugs (40mm) 1 Rear Camshaft Plug (30mm) Vacuum Pump Seal; 3 Fuel Injector Return line O Apr 9, 2015 · BMW 1 series diesel with 70K miles on developed a rattle - it is the timing chain. May 8, 2019 · The timing chain will rattle for about 1 second on start up if the car has been sitting 12+ hours, other than that no noise from the chain. If I press harder on the gas it goes away immediately. Hey guys used this form alot but searching has yielded little on this issue. Its tappy under load, like accelerating up incline in a high gear. Timing Chain. 0 warranty. Adjust the valves when you replace the timing chain, a 22r/re with over 100k miles, and the original chain and Nov 14, 2019 · The timing chain normally needs to be replaced between 80,000 and 120,000 miles unless there is a specific problem. About 5 months and 2k miles i started to hear a rattle that starts about 10 seconds after i start the engine. Apr 14, 2011 · I had same symptoms with a 1. Parts are cheap but the freaking flywheelpuller is $40! Just venting I guess but disappointed in Honda on this one. Tensioner seems to be the problem, not enough oil pressure. Sep 21, 2020 · TDI. Cold srart clatter, clanking, rattle: It's not the chain tensioner or the timing chain at all. Being as I just paid $3600 USD for my timing job, and you're going to pay HALF THAT at $1800 USD and get a water pump and warranty to boot, GO TO THE DEALER! 2013 XLT 3. Tensioners are about £80-£100, genuine Mercedes. 2008 Chevrolet Colorado Crew 1LT G80 (totaled out) 2011 Chevrolet Colorado Crew Z71 4x2 36k miles. Trawling through the internet it seems likely it's the timing chain that's Dec 27, 2023 · Sorry that this description is a little vague. R320 Toronto said: OM642: 2 sec. It sounds like the timing chain to me but I'm not 100% sure. Most noise on start up is timing chain rattle. Heritage colors, rough country seat covers. If the timing chain gets really loose, it could fly off of the Sep 24, 2023 · I currently own an om642, am familiar with the om648 but know nothing about these engines. Aug 21, 2017 · Gnarly death rattle, change the chain or change the engine. 5 SCrew 4x4 Oxford White - 3" lift on 35's. The rattle goes away as soon as you put the foot down a bit. What's new. It has 193k on the clock. 7 and had nothing but issues with the engine. Discussion starter. The patented "Offset Y-drive" uses three timing chains, one from the crank to the Oct 15, 2007 · Mar 19, 2008. May 18, 2020 · 2013 F150 Screw 3. timing chain rattle? Thread starter boone; Start date Jul 29, 2020 Sep 7, 2020 · Any queries, please do not hesitate to contact Email@mbsofsouthampton. I cant believe the quality of a Honda could be this bad. When the chain lets go there can be a distinct possibility that the pins will get ripped out of the block; so pay particular attention to that area when doing a serviceability inspection. Oct 6, 2019 · Arizona. As to the timing chain, you might want to have it checked for stretch. #30 · Nov 6, 2018. One of my fellow Sprinter owners told me today that the timing BELT (I would have thought it was a chain) broke on his 2008 NCV3 3. Feb 23, 2019 · Since I know about the warranty (I also have a 2009 JSW 2. 4 posts · Joined 2023. I am looking at a broken Sprinter van that has one of these engines with a bad timing chain. Piston Slap. 5L Ecoboost Oxford White. It could be slack down there creating a noise. It was a clacking noise that was quite noticeable at idle, but would diminish greatly or go away under load. Timing chain causes rattling sound at cold start. Please let me know if this is normal or what could be wrong. Nissan Navara YD25 engines have been fitted with timing chains from two manufacturers, a French chain (white– yellow) timing marks and a Japanese Tsubaki chain (blue-yellow) timing marks. Aug 4, 2018 · Always when you replace the timing chain Buy the OEM raplacment set. I have an r32 on 128k miles and it has the much documented "timing chain rattle" noise. I have a noise at start up and from my research seems to be timing chain rattle. as this is getting to be a know issue. SAAB used to do this with the old Triumph Dolomite engine which surprised me at the time. I know the 648s never had timing chain problems and an older 642 if oil changes are done doesn't have issues either. If driving an older vehicle, or one with close to 100,000 miles, it is recommended to look for symptoms of the timing chain going bad or failing. Install a new timing chain since you have got this far into a teardown. 8T engine, would rattle like a diesel on start up. Jul 27, 2016 · Bought this 2008 313 cdi lwb h/r last weekend and have issues. It'll be another week 'till the new timing chain tensioner comes, and I'm worried about whether it's safe to drive or not. Check the chain tension is all on the tensioner side and that it was the proper tension. My observation with all new timing components it’s sticks out approximate 4-5mm with old worn out components around 17-18 mm. I've never had the dreaded startup timing chain noise, but I finally heard it a few The fuel pump drive timing chain is simplex (single row) and is failing well before the camshaft timing chain. I have seen on the Equinox form a dealer quoted $4200 and he had a independent do it for a bit over $2k. Currently 111,000 miles with what looks like a 10-15k service interval previously. It is not a simple process to adjust the chain tension. The timing chains on this engine get sloppy and rattle around. I will have to import it from europe but febi bilstein offers the tensioner alone ( 25408 ) as well as part of a kit Oct 7, 2023 · Loose timing chain. Dec 17, 2014 · T. Is this normal? Is there an oil check valve that needs to be replaced or does the timing chain tensioners need to be replaced? Very concerned with it at such low mileage. 5 and 35k miles that has tha noisey timing chain rattle upon start up after sitting for a few hours,it's my understanding that the cause is no oil pressure to the tensioner because the oil drains back into the oil pan after sitting Oct 7, 2013 · 2011 3. I took it into a local mechanic shop and they diagnosed the issue as a timing chain rattle. 0 V6 TDI timing chain rattles at startup after it's been sitting for more than a couple hours. 0T, with 112k miles) They fixed the rattle however still have a check engine light on as they couldn't get the timing right, talked to a couple of other mechanics who indicated the engine actually has to come up to set the timing on the 3. Read through many threads and it seams like it could be the Harmonic Balancer after watching some videos and listen to similar sounds. IMO the timing chain is an integral part of a fully assembled long block's valve train. thrashing sound at startup on Cold Start and in Cold Idle. 14 A6 TDI & 15 Q7 TDI. Joined Jun 3, 2020. OM-651 timing gear issue. Jul 19, 2022 · Member. Run the car for a minute and shut it off. Today, we will show you how to diagnose a rattling noise when accelerating and break down how each of these issues sounds and how to fix them. Audi 3. I noticed what I believe to be a timing chain rattle on cold start. This noise started out of nowhere. Unless you have over 250k on odometer or have not changed the oil every 5,000-7,000 miles, the noise you hear is from the VVT valve timing system and is easily remedied. It sounds like its coming from the timing chain cover on the driver side just below the Jun 27, 2020 · Hello everyone, I'm a new owner of this Mokka 1. Mar 12, 2010 · Engine Rattle on Start Up. My "how too" post will include where I got the parts and prices. Step 1. There is also a plastic guide block on one side of the timing cover that can break when they get old. Apr 25, 2023 · Timing Chain Tensioner. Apr 20, 2017 · funny noise at the rear of the engine that could have been mistaken for an rear. Now i found out that it is due to a bad timing chain tensioner. Just to test. Jul 27, 2020 · Just had my upper tensioner's replaced recently outside of the dealer (also outside of warranty, 2012 Q7 3. I use full synthetic mobil 1 5w20 and AC Delco oil filters only. I also share tip May 20, 2022 · Here's a bit of practical advice and its based upon a few heads off , some engine internal repairs, and the thing called experience. Drive out the crankshaft seal with a hammer and punch. Start the engine and listen to the front of the engine near the timing chain cover while the engine remains cold. Don't run without the belt for too long though. About $5,000 to replace the timing chain, but at that point, they recommended buying a new motor for $12,000 claiming that I could be playing whack-a Dec 29, 2016 · If you look down though the oil fill hole you can see the tensioner. In the kit you can observe the split links provided to feed the new chain to the parted old chain as you rotate the engine feeding in the new one. Engine Accessories. The reasons are many fold. I’ve gotten a few quotes from local San Diego mechanics for around $3500. 5L Ecoboost with 168,000 miles: Timing chain rattle during start-up. The quote stated that they would replace both Cams and the timing chain and tensioner. Jan 4, 2021 · In Part 1 of this video I show the step by step process on how to remove the timing chain on this Merc and delink the chain. Albert, Alberta, Canada. Hi all, I currently have my engine apart replacing all of the cooling related components in the lifter valley. A faulty tensioner can cause the timing chain to become loose and make rattling noises. 3 degrees duty cycle. Any help appreciated. Worse when cold. 100% new components and manufactured from high quality, durable material for extended life. Feb 3, 2023 · Timing Chain Rattle Fix Cost, Warranty, and Ford Support. 0l SOHC engine was from the tensioners, they are spring loaded for starting then oil pressure takes over. 6 cdti 65plate with 57k milage and i had this issue with rattling on the first key starting. 0 liter sohc with 190k miles on it. Much worse if temp is over 90 deg f, the oil is low viscosity, on hot days the oil takes to long to extend the t c plunger in order to extend the tensioner. If it is stretched to the point where the tensioner can no longer take up the slack time for a new tensioner and chain. Jan 11, 2021. It doesn't seem to do it if I hold an RPM in a particular gear. The rattling isn’t the worst of your problems either. I've read the values for the chain on VCDS and its well within tolerance; -3 and -1 on blocks 208 and 209. TIMING CHAIN SET -Oreilly- or -online source- $197-$202. It may rattle and shake as you are driving down the road. Old chains can get enough slack to rattle against the timing chain cover. Mar 18, 2011 · The 4. So it looks like I have the death rattle on cold start. This noise is usually most noticeable during startup and can get worse over. #2 · Jul 22, 2020. My car ('96 318is, M44 engine) started making the infamous timing chain rattle about two weeks ago. Make sure to check out my first Dec 29, 2023 · Dec 29, 2023. I have a constant rattle at the low end. Engine must be removed to do, and this is not a normal maint item like a timing belt. I ruined his engine. Gonna order chain tensioner spring and gasket cant sell itlike this. the rockers ride on the cam, and on the valves themselves. Alo i think a good practice when doing the chain job to change the water pump, thermostat and a clutch job. 2L om651. ToyoLuv. Jul 20, 2023 · zainexe Discussion starter. 266 posts · Joined 2008. Dec 24, 2023 · Engine Timing Kit. About 2 months ago I took my car into my local dealership. It got replaced 3 times over 60k mi of driving, then they replaced the oil pump which seemed to help. 1. I have a 2013 om651 with a 2. Issues with the chain are common in higher mileage vehicles. Put new on, new key, put new bolt in, put belt back on correctly, took out cool tool to lock flywheel which did move because i at first did not use tool. Oct 29, 2019 · As a Ford Explorer owner, you might experience engine rattle issues caused by two primary factors: the timing chain and the tensioner. 7 z71 colorado with 56k on it, no start up rattles. If that completely eliminates the noise, it would rule out the timing chain. There was a design flaw that was changed around 2004, so newer tensioners are better. It would also start making noise at idle when the engine was hot. Jun 17, 2023 · 1. Bearings on the shaft make sure the needle bearings are good. Sometimes the rattle goes away when the engine is hot sometimes it doesn't. 0L diesel at about 244,000 miles. My car has the belt tensioner issue. Good luck. 0 timing chain issue creates a sensitivity to engine noise compared to the previous 4. So, if a loose chain is bouncing all over the place and causing rattling noise, it’s probably the tensioner that is actually compromised. Oct 31, 2022 · I share the basic approach for replacing the timing chain on a Mercedes-Benz OM642 engine without taking more apart than you really need to. Aug 27, 2003 · Location: St. All in all I'm getting. Almost like timing chain guide rattle. It uses a jackshaft in place of a camshaft to drive a timing chain to each cylinder head. I've always used good synthetic oil (changed every 4,000 miles) and also use Hot Shot Secret stiction remover every once in awhile to keep the engine cleaned out. This compounded by it being single chain and located at the rear of the engine . 0 liter diesel engine) since it was new. That was the last straw. A bad timing chain will often emit a rattling sound for a few minutes before the engine warms up, and then will lower in intensity or May 23, 2020 · I don’t think there is a replacement schedule for that. The timing chain is what synchronizes the camshaft with the crankshafts together. The car's on 122k miles but the May 11, 2007 · 1996 Tacoma 2RZ-FE, 75,000 miles. 1 Set Timing Chain Riveting Tool. Bad Engine Mounts. BTW, 99. Jan 22, 2022 · Rod Knock. They had to pull the oil pan and found bolts in the oil pan. It's a very common part that may fail and cause rattling of the timing chain. Aug 7, 2020 · Hi, My W204 OM651 is making a rattle on morning start ups for about 3 seconds, I've heard it could be just the timing chain tensioner, but reading through most of the post in this forum it sounds like I will need to change the Chain. 9999% of dealers have no ability to test gasoline for alcohol content. (Sub 1000 RPM) And I cant seem I figure it out. 9's, usually the timing chain rattling was an indicator that its time to get new guides in there soon. However the contentious bit for me is; is this deemed a failure or not as it is still working? Consequential failure is that it breaks the engine that will ultima Oct 14, 2018 · Replacing Timing Chain Tensioner on 2009 - 2014 Mercedes-Benz C300 and C350 (W204) M272 Engine. Hey guys, So for a few months now I have had a rattle coming from my engine - Mainly when moving off from stationary but also when cruising while using very little throttle. Jul 28, 2022 · Forrest cain Discussion starter. 2009 - 2014 Ford F150 - 2013 3. Diagnosis: suspect: Timing Chain Tensioner may need replacing. Ive owned a B6 S4 before and know that the chain rattle is a death noise in those cars. vic. The van is sitting in the guys driveway. Jul 15, 2013 · tvanvliet. Oct 30, 2019 · Make sure you have your timing chain inspected and replaced if necessary. The French chain is fitted in all VINs Feb 21, 2018 · That stated, the general consensus of technical opinion is that infrequent oil changes hasten the wear of the links. Ford bought the truck back. #1 · May 18, 2016. As you know this is a quick do. I have identified the timing chain tensioner as "651 050 08 00 ". Jun 24, 2014 · Discussion starter · #1 · Feb 14, 2022. You can hear a short 2 sec. Timing Chain Tensioner Fault. Feb 1, 2020 · 2010 RAV4 2. 0 SC engine (looking from the front of the car) is often caused by a dodgy secondary fuel pump. New posts. I have seen Sprinter engines as low as 95,000 on them exhibiting serious wear on the timing chain and sprockets. I figured the next step is to find a chevy Aug 13, 2015 · 46 posts · Joined 2015. Place the vehicle in park or neutral and set the emergency brake. The C280 I had earler this year would make a racket then it would go away. Jul 26, 2019 · 3 posts · Joined 2022. There is a quick test for water but not alcohol. Best I can describe the noise is like loud TV static for about a half second or so through each gear as you build speed. Dec 22, 2018 · Maintenance Shop - 2013 3. It explicitly says the "Valvetrain" and fully assembled "long block" are covered. 5L Ecoboost with 152,000 miles. Aug 31, 2023 · Then after breaking 4 1/2 wratchets i finally got the balancer bolt free and replaced. I just had one in my shop today (2002 Ford Explorer w/110K miles [build date 3-01]) with the Sep 21, 2018 · Really hard to miss. Jun 12, 2022 · It’s a 2018 crosstrek. Jan 7, 2023. 308 posts · Joined 2011. Apr 16, 2010 · 2000StreetRod said: There seems to be two different lubrication approaches to reducing timing chain rattle and extending camshaft timing related component life. Michigan. One is to use thicker oil or additives to thicken the oil (high viscosity) in the hope of retaining lubrication of surfaces between engine starts. Just bought a 2015 Q7 TDI with 50k miles a few weeks ago. Apr 18, 2014 · If the chain in very loose and the rattle persists for 3-4 seconds then the tension in the chain should be adjusted. #22 · Aug 8, 2013. Change In Cupholder. Yesterday started up our 313 Sprinter (70,000km) and for around 10sec after start up I could hear an engine rattle like a timing chain with a slack tensioner. If you hear a slapping or rattling noise from the engine bay, especially at the front of the engine, you likely have a loose timing chain. Loose Interior Trim. #1 · Jul 28, 2022. If you notice any of these warning signs, it's advised you contact a local mechanic as soon as possible to diagnose the exact cause and make appropriate repairs as needed. If you can see the shiny portion of the the tensioner the chain is bad. May 23, 2004 · the 22r/22re doesn't actually have lifters. Feb 24, 2021 · This bike can not possibly have 20 hours on it. If you hear a mettalic clack clack clack for a few seconds its likely the chain. There are a few things you can do to help reduce or eliminate timing chain noise: 1. ( cause engine is out) Jun 20, 2020 · I have seen a few posts and heard videos about cold start rattles on these engines indicating a faulty timing chain tensioner. #5 · Dec 17, 2014. Normally, the tensioner would prevent a loose timing chain from being an issue. Timing Chain Issue. When accelerating at a lower rpm it makes a sort of rattle/chain noise. Mar 25, 2019 · There are one method check condition of your timing. I know the TSB that was released and everything. rattle. May 6, 2020 · Hi everyone. I posted a video of the noise below and uploaded it to YouTube. If you turn the key in your engine and hear a loud ticking sound, don’t panic, it is not necessarily a bomb. Sep 21, 2020. TDI. My 18 Diesel with 125k would appear to have the dreaded timing chain rattle. Tom Harbid. It will seal when the cover is bolted onto the engine. I live far away from any mechanics I trust to work on a Sprinter. 5L Death Rattle. Does any one May 18, 2017 · OM651 timing chain issues surfaced fairly early in the service life of this engine after its introduction. 0 TDI with 330,000 miles :-D) I looked closely at the 3. Thought sprinter reputation was the way to go. Nov 4, 2020 · It sounds like a heat shield rattle but cannot locate it. Yeah I had a 2017 2. 171 Posts. I'm not one to buy cheap manufactured parts. I was researching something related to this repair and came upon many threads on "timing chain rattle. Loose Items In Trunk. The owner has used spare engine. / (Diesel) Yeah it's not like in old mercedes cars where it lasts for at least 800k km. 5L EcoBoost Timing Chain Rattle Fix: $3,000. While accelerating the driver side turbo flutters and has the truck has sporadic power - sometimes cutting out completely and going into Mar 11, 2016 · Be aware that the timing chain guides are supported on 8 mm hardened steel pins pressed into the cast iron block bosses on the front face of the block. uk or alternatively you can phone Colin or Dave on 02380 445820, out of hours numbers are 07787913313 or 07907631681. Unless there is a breakage of some sort, I guess the chain should last as long as the engine itself. Changed oil no better. a valve lash adjustment may be in order, but these engines are known to tick, and have no trouble driving 100k or more like that. Jun 13, 2020 · Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts. 2. 2 Jag motors (understandably for those aware of the problem). It would probably be a pulley or the belt tensioner. 1 L) 144” passenger w/ 139k mls and I'm looking for any input and/or suggestions on a cold start rattle that has been diagnosed as needing a replacement of the timing chain, timing chain tensioner and guide kit. Then cleared tools. Feb 21, 2007 · At autozone the upper tensioner by itself is 67+, the same part/manufacturer at Oreilly was 37the list price is 57. #1 · Aug 13, 2015. 4224 posts · Joined 2013. Good evening gentlemen, I have a 2012 Chevy Cruze 1. Just check how far pressure piston go out from tensioner body. My v6 hybrid made a lot of noise on cold start. If Yoy remove oil filling neck you can see chain tensioner. May 23, 2011 · 16 posts · Joined 2010. 8 posts · Joined 2021. This is a very common, very expensive problem. Fixed by my self after a few analysis of how it's sound and from where could be that sound. I've had my Tacoma a little over a year (10k miles) and I'm beginning to notice that when I'm at around 20% throttle accelerating in 1st or 2nd gear, it sounds like a rattling coming from the engine compartment. co. 9 posts · Joined 2010. Oil pressure > 40 PSI, no rattle. Dec 5, 2008 · Palm Beach Henry. The seal should be seated into the correct place on the timing cover. Nov 8, 2018 · Independent Sprinter shop #1: (This is also the shop I purchased the van from) Monitor the start-up sound closely and stop driving it immediately if the start-up timing chain rattle gets worse. " Jul 30, 2020 · Heatso Purchases Sprinter-Source Purchases Donations. I haver read that a rattle or irregular ticking noise down low on the LHS of the 5. thrashing sound at startup (on passenger side) that seems to go away as the OM642 warms up. Below model is for reference only. #6 · Dec 5, 2008. Timing chain kit for the Mercedes 3. #3. I'm happy to replace but if all these engines have a very, very slight rattle from cold, and no tensioner is needed, i'm throwing time and money away! Jul 19, 2019 · Cold Start Rattle: All models. My indie has the 40$ part for my visit next week. Likely the previous owner ran it low on oil for long periods of time or very often, the 98-02 1ZZ-FE is a known oil burner and people neglect to check the oil or only add when the oil light flickers. Over time, as the engine runs, the timing chain will become stretched or worn. The amount of timing change thanks to cam timing chain stretch is something that can be done with the cam covers off, and most dealers charge little to do it. The tensioner’s primary function is to maintain proper tension on the timing chain, ensuring smooth and accurate engine timing. take your Sprinter in at slightly < 100k miles to have the brackets and DPF replaced. The engine became louder about 10k ago and has continued. Feb 13, 2024 · Timing chain noice. #12 · Jun 14, 2022. Also replaced guides, tensioner and both gears. No doubt MB engineers had their reasons, had the chain been duplex it would probably have been good for 200k miles. Log in Register. It leaked leaked oil after they fixed it. The quote was 3k CAD. A car with a failing timing chain will rarely be quiet. Dec 16, 2021 · Hi, I have a 2013 3. Jan 26, 2013 · Rochester, NY. Also on 0 for blocks 090 and 091 with 15. I now have a 2019 with the updated engine. So, I'm happy that the chain is not stretched. Jan 12, 2016 · Listed below are 5 of the symptoms of a worn out timing chain. Hello, i have a 2005 explorer 4. 5 Ecoboost Timing Chain Rattle/Slap FIXED! - Completed my timing chain rattle slap on cold start-up job. Add this to diesel engines and carbon suspended in the oil and you get a hostile mix for rapid chain wear and low life. Average Price of Ford 3. Otherwise, the chain would at times eat through the guides and end up coming through the top of the valve cover! Jan 16, 2020 · Paleosuperdave. At this point in time, many Ford owners have faced this common issue on first-generation 3. I was thinking it could be a timing chain rattle, but I suspect that the dealer would have a TSB on this. I have noticed a rattle on cold start up, but it's not doing it every time. I'll have it done on my next oil change. 0L CRD. Another common issue that can lead to engine rattle in your Nissan Frontier is a faulty timing chain tensioner. See below for specific years. Those of you nearing the 100k miles emissions warranty would be well advised to. Engine misfires or runs poorly. Problem existed before the timing chain was replaced, continues after, was better for 2 days. The engine pulls well and is quiet between 1-2 seconds after startup, I feel I have diagnosed the rattle issue correlating to the top most Jun 14, 2017 · Just based on the sound I hear, it sounds like timing chain. The tensioner can be replaced for much less money than the whole kit. The timing chain tensioner keeps the timing chain taut, which is crucial for the engine’s proper operation. I recently replace the head gasket and when I put everything back together the timing was off a bit. Dec 23, 2023 · Gfenza89 Well-Known Member. The noise then stopped and for the other 6 or so starts of the day did not hear any noises at all. . Feb 1, 2020 · Well-Known Member. 4 and 4. Oct 18, 2007 · Forum Rules. Based on my results with my truck, the rattle will be back. Replaced: primary timing chain, secondary timing chains, exhaust and intake phasers, main timing chain tensioner, every gasket/o-ring/seal in the process following FordTechMakuloco's Apr 6, 2017 · Start (with hand through dirvers window onto ignition) enigne and immediatly stick your ear to the back center of the engine. Nov 2, 2018 · OzXFR. I was planning to make a trip of about 100 miles this weekend, but I'm wondering if I should cancel it. Make sure the guides and tensioners are in good condition and functioning properly. Timing chain rattles at idle only, engine hot. Pull off the serpentine belt momentarily and start the engine. Put key to hear it with out bad rattle and it cranks but nothing. Might not spin a bearing but it doesn't keep the chain lubed and this is the result. Warranty covers wear and tear and service failures. Hi all, I'm a new owner of a March 2011 F10 BMW 520d and I recently noticed a rattle from the engine bay whenever I cold start it, it seems to go away when the car warms up. Your engine doesn't seem to have the rattle associated with tensioners that are allowing more whip in the chain than it's supposed to have, based on that short video. 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