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Presence penalty is too low: set it at 0.</div> <div id="post-15664" class="post-15664 contemporary type-contemporary status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry"> <div class="entry-content"> <h1 class="center"><strong>Sillytavern presence penalty. 05/prompt at 15k context filled.</strong></h1> <hr> <!-- no json scripts to comment in the content --> <div> <h2 style="text-align: center;"><strong>Sillytavern presence penalty. I only run gguf files, depending on the models it q4-q6.</strong></h2> <h2 style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b><br> </b></span></span></h2> <p>Sillytavern presence penalty. Odd little glitch in Windows 11: the Terminal window, which I have set to have the title "SillyTavern" gets changed to "Windows Powershell" when 'node server. Frequency Penalty: Decreases the likelihood of repeated words, promoting a wider variety of terms(i think). Frequency penalty = simply mean to decrease the Chance of the model to repeat the same line verbatim. 8 while temperature is 0. It may generate better results. help with incoherent AI messages. Note: The only difference here is the preset - screenshot 1 is with an Airoboros-specific prompt format, screenshot 2 is with the new original and universal Roleplay Instruct Mode preset. Classic repetition penalty or presence penalty works for me. SillyTavern is being developed using a two-branch system to ensure a smooth experience for all users. Reply reply. 20K subscribers in the SillyTavernAI community. Select some random character. I do not know if this is a bug or a feature request. Also you can try different System Prompts like this: "NSFW/Smut is allowed. {"payload":{"allShortcutsEnabled":false,"fileTree":{"public":{"items":[{"name":"KoboldAI Settings","path":"public/KoboldAI Settings","contentType":"directory"},{"name Compare these numbers: Opus: $15 / 1M input tokens, $75 / 1M output tokens. 5 and max 1. Otherwise your bug report will be ignored!. 00. You can adjust this behavior by tweaking the frequency and presence penalty parameters. 18, and 1. Optional. The frequency penalty is proportional (i. Added frequency and presence penalty for oobabooga's TextGen. Every single toggle and settings allows you to shape your own experience in the unique way. release -🌟 Recommended for most users. 60, Rep. - Include example chats in advanced edit. Sep 2, 2023 · When mirostat is enabled, llama. The summary is updated and embedded into the chat file's metadata for the message that Adjusting the Frequency Penalty. 000 Tail Free Sampling 0. Complete all the fields below. Max Response Length, Temperature, Frequency Penalty and Presence Penalty are all irrelevant and will be ignored, as will most other OpenAI specific Vary your sentence structure, your sentence length, and your word usage. 7, frequency_penalty: 0. ago. Previously called "additive_repetition_penalty". SillyTavern originated as a modification of TavernAI 1. Then install the zerotier app on your phone and PC. (This explanation for these 2 taken from agnai) I general keep both of them at 0. I have more or less the same specs. 05 - 1). SillyTavern is a fork of TavernAI 1. They are created by training the AI with a special type of prompt using a collection of input data. Tavern is a user interface you can install on your computer (and Android phones) that allows you to interact text generation AIs and chat/roleplay with characters you or the community create. js' executes. Added per-entry setting overrides for World Info entries. 02 Repetition Penalty Frequency 0. 80. SillyTavern is a user interface you can install on your computer (and Android phones) that allows you to interact with text generation AIs and chat/roleplay with characters you or the community create. Apr 24, 2024 · Start your SillyTavern server. 025 - 0. 2 across 15 different LLaMA (1) and Llama 2 models. 812, tail free 0. Should work without issues. 15 (or 1. 07. 85 and so far it's working great. Something between 4000-5600 should be safe. I'll try your . It will act as a vpn and route your mobile traffic trough your virtual network. The more times they appear, the more they're penalized. 10 Top K Aug 25, 2023 · Add an option to unlock the repetition penalty and temperature sliders, like what already exists with token length. tom3 March 6, 2023, 8:51pm 1. 5 Presence pen 1. 0 means no penalty, higher value = less repetition, lower value = more repetition. May 19, 2021 · Frequency_penalty and presence_penalty are two parameters that can be used when generating text with language models, such as GPT-3. 7 Desktop Information Vectorization Source: Local (Transformers) Describe the problem When I try to use the vector storage extra it says that the vectorization failed. Git. Honestly, unless Sonnet has extremely stricter writing, I'd encourage people to try Sonnet first. Dec 16, 2023 · Cohee1207/SillyTavern-DiscordRichPresence-Server This commit does not belong to any branch on this repository, and may belong to a fork outside of the repository. Top-up should always stay at 1. 4 For reference: **Frequency Penalty** helps prevent word repetitions by reducing the chance of a word being selected if it has already been used. It takes a bit of extra work, but basically you have to run SillyTavern on a PC/Laptop, then edit the whitelist. Prompt format. 812, Slope 4. Oct 3, 2023 · Much like prompt engineering, input parameter tuning can get your model running at 110%. After selecting a model you still need to make some minor changes in SillyTavern. 2. 8 in February 2023, and has since added many cutting-edge features not Presence Penalty select Top K Welcome to SillyTavern! Read the Official Documentation. Select Pygmalion preset. presence_penalty. cpp will sample new tokens in the following order: 1) Repetition penalties are applied 2) Frequency and presence penalties are applied 3) Temperature is sampled 4) mirostat is sampled Everything else is ignored. 15 seem to work fine. I want a good response for the AI! Here are my settings for Tavern, not necessarily the best. Both are good, despite silicon maid being only 7B. So, grab a coffee, and let’s get started! You don't need to edit the presence penalty line out in the code. 4 and the presence penalty to -0. Jun 27, 2023 · Warning. Enable streaming option. Standard KoboldAI settings files are used here. 075 or lower. This should also be added to repetition penalty range, as it's seemingly limited to 2048 tokens currently. Add %. A place to discuss the SillyTavern fork of TavernAI. 5-turbo model. SAULLM by BobbyTheEvil. Both default to 0 and have a max value of 2. The summarization extension is installed in SillyTavern by default, thus it will show up in ST's Extensions panel (stacked cubes icon) list like this: Summarize Config Panel. 1 is a fine-tune of MistralLite on the cinematika-v0. Possible alternative to using BART would be vectors storage like in popular ChatGPT memory plugin, but it requires OAI API access which limits the possibilities for those who don't want to use it. with min_p at 0. Then you will be able to access ST from anywhere. 35) or Frequency penalty (0. Temperature: 0. Reload to refresh your session. Very small adjustments are recommended when experimenting with Presence penalty, as setting it too high can result in punctuation tokens quickly being penalized Dec 16, 2023 · Companion UI plugin for Discord Rich Presence. Top-up defines how much sampling is done If the model starts spouting GPT nonsense or gets in a bit of a loop you can either add Presence Penalty (0. Q5_K_M-GGUF . 1. Launch SillyTavern Connect to ooga Load Aqua character Type anything No response. 08, rep pen freq 0. Command-R+ is a bit of a beast to get setup locally, even with a 48GB GPU setup. Sort by: fana-fo. 05 - 1. 1 is great for these models, then for Dynamic Temp, just play around with it. It gives access to OpenAI's GPT-3. 20. Repetition Penalty 2. Sep 28, 2023 · By the end of this article, you’ll be an expert on five essential input parameters — temperature, top-p, top-k, frequency penalty, and presence penalty. Did you mean to use v1/completions? Additional context My openai account is newly created, and didn't suspanded for SillyTavern is a fork of TavernAI 1. When I adjusted it to min 0. frequency_penalty: Higher values penalize new tokens based on their existing frequency in the text so far, decreasing the model's likelihood to repeat the same line verbatim. Contribute to Cohee1207/SillyTavern-DiscordRichPresence-UI development by creating an account on GitHub. For models you can try these two, FlatOrcamaid-13b-v0. Then, run the following command to install git: cmd /c winget install -e --id Git. Number between -2. Temperature Feel free to play with this one, lower values are more grounded. 0 Freq pen 1. If you already have one for Spermack that should work fine. Amount generation: 128 Tokens. Basically, to use file embeddings you need to go into the "Vector Storage" extension settings and enable file querying, then use "Attach files" and they will be chunked and added to the context as you chat. When I ran a min temp of 1 and a max temp of 3 without Min-P, the results were consistently incoherent. frequency penalty and presence penalty. Try increasing the Frequency/Presence Penalty and Temperature (and max out the Context size). Added automatic backup of chat files to the /backups/ folder. Set the context size to something sensible. I'm also using kobaldcpp to run gguf files. 20) Repetition Penalty Range 2048 (didn't found any difference but i use that) Repetition Penalty Slope 0. 2 – top_k: 1 – transforms: [‘middle-out’] If you do that, you should either use a smaller range of temperature values or use Min-P with it. 8 which is under more active development and has added many major features. 0 and 2. Frequency_penalty: This parameter is used to discourage the model from repeating the same words or phrases too frequently within the generated text. (All other sampling methods are disabled) I've been trying all sorts of combinations for hours and my best result so far is this. 1, Repetition penalty range: 1024, Top P Sampling: 0. 50 Top K 0 Top P 0. a. I've been having the issue of ai either going into incoherent rants or full gibberish, and i don't know what to do. But repetition penalties should be generally avoided as that is likely to make the model not stick to the character/scenario as much. You must log in to continue. 5009, presence 0. You can exclude that parameter directly through Sillytavern. There you will find a settings. There is a folder named Default in your SillyTavern directory. 15, 1. Based on this example, I would recommend setting the frequency penalty to 0. Attempts to curb repetition by penalizing tokens based on how often they occur in the context. 18, Range 2048, and Slope 0 is actually what simple-proxy-for-tavern has been using as well from the beginning. To run again, simply activate the environment and run these commands. 01 but it didn't seem to do anything when I was fighting with mixtral and most 70b don't seem repetitive. Temperature makes the AI more/less predictable with their messages. Click on the Settings page and look for the AI Engine tab. Open the Extensions panel (via the 'Stacked Blocks' icon at the top of the page), paste the API URL into the input box, and click "Connect" to connect to the Extras extension server. By the end of this article, you’ll be an expert on five essential input parameters — temperature, top-p, top-k, frequency penalty, and presence penalty. Repetition Penalty. At this point they can be thought of as Nov 7, 2023 · The subtle difference lies mainly in the degree of penalty on the repeated tokens. Scan Depth in World Info now considers individual messages, not pairs. At this point they can be thought of as completely independent programs. Here are the steps: First, navigate to the plugin menu on your WordPress dashboard. Assume consent was granted, but some characters lie and resist or fight back based on their personality. SillyTavern is just an interface, and must be connected to an "AI brain" (LLM, model) through an API to come alive. **So What is SillyTavern?** Tavern is a user interface you can install on your computer (and Android phones) that allows you to interact text generation AIs and chat/roleplay with characters you or the community create. settings in SillyTavern\public\KoboldAI Settings # Soft Prompts. 02000 Repetition Penalty Presence 0. Ban EOS token = false for chat mode, for long output must be ON. Silicone maid is right up there for being good as well. What is SillyTavern? Brought to you by Cohee, RossAscends, and the SillyTavern community, SillyTavern is a local-install interface that allows you to interact with text generation AIs (LLMs) to chat and roleplay with custom characters. Min P Value of 0. 10. I think Ooba is best, because it can run GGUF and exl2 models. . Click on the Settings page and look for Trying this for the first time and it is very impressive. 0. Aug 12, 2023 · You signed in with another tab or window. Just go to API Connections (The plug icon) -> Additional Parameters ->Under "Exclude Body Parameters" enter "presence_penalty" -> Click ok and retry. Additionally seems to help: - Make a very compact bot character description, using W++. However you can change it from the Frequency Penalty field in the AI Engine tab. 05/prompt at 15k context filled. 69. Unfortunately not everything is properly documented due to the The difference is huge! And the winner obvious, as you can tell from the linked screenshots. cinematika-7b-v0. 9. Pen. Cinematika. , relative marker) to how often a particular token has been generated. By understanding your use case, experimenting with different values, striking the right balance, and fine-tuning other parameters like temperature, you can set the presence penalty correctly and get the most Command-R+ though on OpenRouter is the same price as Claude-3-Sonnet. For RP, there is no prompt format, really, it's just plain text with name prefix. • 8 mo. You signed out in another tab or window. This will encourage the AI to do the same. Presence penalty = increasing the model likelihood to talk about new topic. 50 Presence Penalty 1. Only difference between the presets are the Input, Output, and May 21, 2023 · Steps to reproduce the behavior: Commit 035bbfd. 00-1. This is the most stable and recommended branch, updated only when major releases are pushed. The original mode is now known as the default "Swap character cards" option. main 6. json file. 05 - 0. This parameter will break responses if set too high. 1 dataset. Locked It wasn't your question at all, but in case anyone comes up with the problem I had of massive repetition loops - I think I found the solution in these settings - temp 1. Sep 2, 2023 · presence_penalty: 0. number or null. 95 Min p 0 Top A 1. 3f to allow for another decimal place for Typical. Edit: current settings are in the "Public" folder. Presence penalty is too low: set it at 0. I think I have seen this before automatically being added to the prompt (or it might have been a special prompt I've had). When our plugin is installed for the first time, it comes with 0. Add a Comment. Check WebTools for errors. - add your short character desc. The problem I am having is that when setting frequency_penalty and/or presence_penalty anywhere from -2 to 2 I am not really seeing any tangible difference in Presence penalty functions similarly to the default Repetition Penalty slider, but only applies a flat penalty each time a token appears, rather than adjusting for how often they do. tau, eta, repeat-last-n, repeat-penalty, presence-penalty, and frequency-penalty parameters will Limiting it to 1024 tokens and keeping it under 1. GPT-4 Turbo: $10 / 1M input tokens, $30 / 1M output tokens. Apr 21, 2023 · Also summaries tend to be longer than the desired amount no matter the length penalty, hence the 0 min length which allows to have it shorter. Soft Prompts allow you to customize the style and behavior of your AI. I only run gguf files, depending on the models it q4-q6. Dialectica by GrimJim. On your keyboard: press WINDOWS + R to open Run dialog box. The presence penalty is a crucial parameter in GPT models that helps control the repetition of phrases and words in the generated text. In SillyTavern console window it shows "is_generating: false,". Copy and paste/replace this version over the existing one, which I believe is in the main directory iirc . 7, top_p: 1, top_k: undefined, stop: [], logit_bias: {}} Error: Request failed with status code 404 This is not a chat model and thus not supported in the v1/chat/completions endpoint. Log In. Added repetition penalty control for OpenRouter. If there is still an issue, here are some other things to try: Make sure there is nothing causing the repetition in your Memory or Author’s Note. after the bot description, like [Character (“<User>”) {is (“Drunk”+“neighbor”+"man presence_penalty: Higher values penalize new tokens based on whether they appear in the text so far, increasing the model's likelihood to talk about new topics. Command-R+ tho is a 103B model, so that's not a surprise. After you have selected the model of choice, modify the ‘Additional Parameters’ which is where you connect the API. Write <BOT>'s next reply in a fictional chat between <BOT> and <USER>. 915 Phrase Repetition Penalty Aggressive Preamble set to [ Style: chat, complex, sensory, visceral, role-play ] CFG Scale of 1. Describe alternatives you've considered **So What is SillyTavern?** Tavern is a user interface you can install on your computer (and Android phones) that allows you to interact text generation AIs and chat/roleplay with characters you or the community create. 10 are good, personally I would use 0. 8 in February 2023, and has since added many cutting 1. You switched accounts on another tab or window. To Reproduce Launch oogabooga's start_windows. Current summary - displays and provides an ability to modify the current summary. Create a virtual network with ZeroTier. Your device will see your pc as part of it's network even if you are physically on different networks. 5, it was fine. Expected behavior Jun 13, 2023 · I recommend creating a new preset for Claude. 0 Top P 0. Connect text-generation-ui to SillyTavern via API settings section. Presence Penalty : Decreases the likelihood of words that have already appeared in the text(i think again). Our contestants: Kisna Kaalana by Bronya Rand. 90 Any help is much appreciated! I have no idea what I'm doing because I feel like as soon as I start to grasp something, I suddenly have to change because that model no longer supports NSFW 🥴 Vectors/RAG/Smart Context/etc is far from being a priority area of development in SillyTavern. 256, top p 0. Responsetime is not longer than 30-60 seconds for a 220t answer. 01 as the default Presence Penalty value. Mar 6, 2023 · API. 70. On your keyboard: press WINDOWS + E to open File Explorer, then navigate to the folder where you want to install the launcher. q4_K_S-GGUF or silicon-maid-7b. New and improved UX for the Persona Management panel. presence_penalty: Similar to repetition_penalty, but with an additive offset on the raw token scores instead of a multiplicative factor. As for which API to choose, for beginners, the simple answer is: Poe. You’ll also learn how each of these parameters helps us navigate the quality-diversity tradeoff. Oob was giving me slower results than kobald cpp. This is uncommon, but if these are too repetitive, or if it is repeating phrases Jan 16, 2024 · 4. Values between 0. Thank you for all your hard work. The dataset is comprised of 211 movie scripts converted to novel style, multi-character RP data. I was cranking frequency when getting bombarded with identical emoji and it was doing nothing. 85 Top A 0. Lowering the presence penalty means the AI is more likely to repeat the same phrases. 1, 1. There’s no a correct or recommended way to play with things. Mirostat = 1 (but you need to check which is best for you. 5-turbo model for free, while it's pay-per-use on the OpenAI API. Min-P Higher values chop off more probabilities. Positive values penalize new tokens based on whether they appear in the text When our plugin is installed for the first time, it comes with 0. 50, top k 89, typical P 0. Temperature is too low: set it at 1. Frequency Penalty 1. Using OpenRouter inference data, we did an analysis on the preferred parameters in various popular open-source models. Use Dynamic Temperature for Mixtral/Mistral based finetunes, and use Min P instead of old samplers like Top K/P. 0 by default, and better to start from 0) One of these characters will join the roster of SillyTavern's downloadable family, taking the opportunity to ride on Flux the Cat's robovacuum or answer Coding Sensei's quirky coding riddles. ago • Edited 8 mo. Here are the insights! Goliath-120b: Temperature suggests a moderate level of creativity, while frequency and presence penalties encourage diversity without excessive repetition. On the other hand, the presence penalty is a once-off (additive) penalty applied to a token that has appeared at least once, like a Boolean (1/0) marker. So how can i avoid this? My setting is: Temp 1. Jul 16, 2023 · With the GPT API, you have control over two penalty controls: Frequency penalty and Presence penalty. 3 Improvements. Start text-generation-ui at commit d7fabe6. 10 - 0. It lets you create new characters (a character is a description of someone that you give to an AI for them to roleplay), and switch between your characters easily. 01 as the default Frequency Penalty value. I've done a lot of testing with repetition penalty values 1. Apr 21, 2023 · Triggering the AI to produce a response gives nothing. LLM Frontend for Power Users. To add your own settings, simply add the file . 64, cfg scale 1. bat Make sure ooga is set to "api" and "default" chat option and apply. I need to teach my students about frequency_penalty and presence_penalty as part of a chatbot we are building using ChatGPT API’s gpt-3. I've used the newer Kinochi but liked silicone maid better, personally. You'll need to run smaller quants on it if you're at 48GB. 11. 18 turned out to be the best across the board. - try to find what bot description might be touching the repeating topic, rewrite it. Repetition Penalty 1. Nov 5, 2023 · Environment Self-Hosted (Bare Metal) System Windows 11 Version 1. 915 Phrase Repetition Penalty Aggressive Preamble set to [ Style: chat, complex, sensory, visceral, role-play ] Nothing in "Banned Tokens" Brought to you by Cohee, RossAscends, and the SillyTavern community, SillyTavern is a local-install interface that allows you to interact with text generation AIs (LLMs) to chat and roleplay with custom characters. Tail Free Sampling 0. e. Type /help in chat for commands and macros. Other improvements: New generate mode for group chats: "Join character cards" to send all definitions of active members at once. What's more important is that Repetition Penalty 1. SillyTavern is an app to facilitate these roleplaying chats: It's a user interface that handles the communication with those AI language models. Everything’s too low. Temp: 0. Send any prompt to chat. Apr 19, 2023 · Saved searches Use saved searches to filter your results more quickly **So What is SillyTavern?** Tavern is a user interface you can install on your computer (and Android phones) that allows you to interact text generation AIs and chat/roleplay with characters you or the community create. Range. 80 Repetition Penalty Range 2048 Repetition Penalty Slope 0. Top_p: 0. It's about $0. Frequency penalty penalizes tokens based on how many times they've already appeared in the text. I use oobabooga + sillytavern since you can better handle the chat and character edits than in oobabooga, it also has more and better presets. Added logprobs display for supported APIs (OpenAI, NovelAI, TextGen). 2. txt file to whitelist your phone’s IP address, then you can actually type in the IP address of the hosting device with :8000 at the end on your iOS phone browser and it’ll run on your phone :P. 85. Do not set it higher than 1. 44, rep penalty 1. 65, Repetition penalty: 1. So I'll be leeching off of this post. Now compare that with: Sonnet: $3 / 1M input tokens, $15 / 1M output tokens. Repetition Penalty Tries to decrease repetition. However you can change it from the Presence Penalty field in the AI Engine tab. It seems like Smoothing Factor is sensitive to temperature. Defaults to 0. SillyTavern Docs. Forgot account? · Sign up for Facebook Start your SillyTavern server. SillyTavern 1. 5 Top K 40 Top p 0. 8 which is under more active development, and has added many major features. Sometimes, if the character is fixated on something or repeats the same phrase, increasing this parameter can help. The first thing you’d need to understand here is that there’s nothing objectively best anything in regards to SillyTavern. 1. 1 and repetition penalty at 1. 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